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Re: Cathryn Sophia (760 Views)
Posted by: ringato3 (IP Logged)
Date: April 25, 2016 02:00PM

TGJB,

Thanks for the comment.

1. I got your message last week - no name calling (of horses - slugs, can of XXXX, etc..)

2. What I said is not in conflict with "modern sheets" tenets, just in conflict with stuff that is 20 years old. I realize I am treading in deeper waters here as you run the company and they are your customers, but "tenets" have evolved. I would agree certainly that form is a cycle and this plays well when you watch horses spend 3 or 4 months racing every 3 to 4 weeks at 6 furlongs on the dirt and you look at their numbers on a graph and make form assumptions. But when a SIGNIFICANT constant changes, like track surface, route/sprint, extreme bias, etc, then looking at the form on a graph is EXTREMELY less important to at least some of your customers, if not many. (just look at comments by Miff and Mjellish on the topic of Cathryn Sophia, as they are two of your longtime customers). You want to look at Cathryn Sophia's sheet and see the bad performance last time and call it a bounce off some fast races and just leave it there as a change in her form cycle, then you can do that. But others, having seen her breeding, having seen her physical looks, and having suspected she can't route as well, then see her back up routing, we are likely going to consider it unrelated to her form cycle and more related to her ability to get a route of ground. Shoot, the whole reason I started this thread was because I was looking for some sheets read to explain the back up so I could convince myself she was playable in the Oaks at a better price. But instead of getting that, what I got was two of your Senior members spitting back what you are calling "visual handicapping" to me. They weren't my words (although I agree with them).

Some of us don't use your product (or your competitor's) as dogmatically as we did 15 years ago. You may not call that a good thing, but it is evolution of the handicapping game.

Rob



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Cathryn Sophia (1053 Views) ringato3 04/24/2016 06:10PM
Re: Cathryn Sophia (1041 Views) miff 04/24/2016 06:32PM
Re: Cathryn Sophia (828 Views) ringato3 04/24/2016 06:39PM
Re: Cathryn Sophia (845 Views) miff 04/24/2016 06:53PM
Re: Cathryn Sophia (766 Views) NormandyInvasion 04/25/2016 12:47AM
Re: Cathryn Sophia (820 Views) Silver Charm 04/25/2016 09:08AM
Re: Cathryn Sophia (621 Views) ajkreider 04/25/2016 04:29PM
Re: Cathryn Sophia (645 Views) ringato3 04/25/2016 04:43PM
Re: Cathryn Sophia (649 Views) milwmike 04/25/2016 09:33AM
Re: Cathryn Sophia (634 Views) miff 04/25/2016 09:41AM
Re: Cathryn Sophia (815 Views) ringato3 04/25/2016 10:48AM
Re: Cathryn Sophia (651 Views) miff 04/25/2016 11:05AM
Re: Cathryn Sophia (626 Views) ringato3 04/25/2016 12:33PM
Re: Cathryn Sophia (780 Views) mjellish 04/25/2016 11:49AM
Re: Cathryn Sophia (649 Views) ringato3 04/25/2016 12:30PM
Re: Cathryn Sophia (720 Views) TGJB 04/25/2016 01:29PM
Re: Cathryn Sophia (760 Views) ringato3 04/25/2016 02:00PM
Re: Cathryn Sophia (642 Views) TGJB 04/25/2016 02:41PM
Re: Cathryn Sophia (641 Views) miff 04/25/2016 03:20PM
Re: Cathryn Sophia (663 Views) TGJB 04/25/2016 03:30PM


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