Re: Saratoga Morning Line (840 Views)
Posted by:
P-Dub (IP Logged)
Date: August 06, 2016 01:18PM
SoCalMan2 Wrote:
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> P-Dub Wrote:
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> > jimbo66 Wrote:
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> > > P-Dub,
> > >
> > > Whether it should or shouldn't affect a
> > > handicapper and whether a bad morning line
> can
> > be
> > > exploited easily or not at all, it really
> > doesn't
> > > matter.
> > >
> > > How about like in almost all other
> occupations
> > and
> > > industries, the person being paid to perform
> > the
> > > job be close to competent.
> > >
> > > Travis Stone isn't. He is showing it EVERY
> > DAY.
> > >
> > > For me, I am tired of second class treatment
> in
> > > many aspects of the game by the powers to be,
> > to
> > > the players (aka the customers)
> > >
> > > Stone has to go. Send him to a minor league
> > > circuit for training.
> > >
> > > The best meet in our country doesn't deserve
> to
> > > have a hack doing the morning line, learning
> on
> > > the job.
> > >
> > > Jim
> >
> > Fine Jimbo. I don't disagree with that at all.
>
> > His performance, racing not giving its
> customers
> > what they deserve, all of that. You are spot
> on.
> >
> > Its the incessant whining and crying by people
> > like So Cal. Wah Wah sniffle sniffle. I have
> to
> > spend a bit more time handicapping a race.
> >
> > So tell me So Cal, where is all of this
> sniveling
> > when this happens at other tracks? Because it
> > does, more often than you want to admit.
> >
> > Its a pathetic excuse to blame the ML for all
> of
> > this. As I have said already, this happens at
> > EVERY FREAKING TRACK. EVERY DAY.
> >
> > You shouldn't even need a ML to figure out what
> > horses are probably going to get action. Not
> every
> > horse, but enough to get a feel for the race.
>
> I only play NYRA and SoCal. I believe you it
> happens at other tracks. What do you want me to do
> about that? I just believe that the product at
> the top of the market should reflect it is at the
> top of the market. They do not have to do that if
> they do not want to. It is a matter of customer
> service. I think they should be providing normal
> courtesies that facilitate betting. They do not.
> Fair enough. You can think I am a pathetic cry
> baby if you like, but if you want to chase all the
> pathetic crybabies out of your game, your game
> will decline.
>
> In almost any other industry in the world, if a
> customer complains, the motto is the customer is
> always right. In horseracing, the customer who
> complains is a pussy crybaby and should buck up or
> leave. The just doesnt seem like a good approach
> to keep something going.
My last comments.
- You're not a pussy. I didn't say that.
- I do believe you're going a little overboard on your consternation.
- I 100% agree with what you are saying about the ML at Saratoga, and its effects on how you play
- Since it doesn't appear to be getting any better, I just deal with it.
- I'll stop with the personal comments about being whiny, etc.. My apologies. It doesn't help the discussion. You have every right to voice your displeasure. I just think the point has been made, and we need to move on.
I'm going to the A's game, Arrieta Vs Gray. Great seats. I hope to see a competitive ballgame. At least I was given the tickets and the seats are great.
Everyone have a great Whitney Day and hope you all cash some tickets. Sounds like we as a group are overdue for a good day.
P-Dub