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Re: No ROTW (1188 Views)
Posted by: JohnTChance (IP Logged)
Date: September 23, 2017 12:59PM

My hurried take on the Pennsylvania Derby boils down to: Who'll run a 0 or less (with, of course, a good ground-saving trip). Note via the TG Archives that Baffert's BAYERN won this race by 6 lengths in 2014 with a -1.5.

A bunch of these runners have bone-rattlingly fast negative figures in their pasts. The essential task here is to interpolate their regression or recovery status. That's why I asked for Jerry's experienced eyes.

BOTTOM LINE: I'll be playing against Chad and Todd winning. Using Baffert and O'Neill no-brainers reluctantly. Playing/pressing/structuring around Navarro (GAME OVER) and Motion (IRISH WAR CRY). Hoping the bottom two can work out decent trips, which might not be easy here.

GAME OVER was only in Jorge Navarro's barn for a few days before he ran giant at Mountaineer. Even if he pairs that number (adding to the legend that Jerry's numbers are notoriously "straight”) he may still get a nice check here because he's in light at 117. Can second-time Navarro, with more time, on a more "home" track, with bullet works into this, be a good thing at 15-1 morning line?

Graham Motion says IRISH WAR CRY is training better than ever. Is he zig-zagging back to a negative number that can win this? I say yes.

Fascinating race.



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Re: No ROTW (1096 Views) P-Dub 09/22/2017 08:17PM
Re: No ROTW (1000 Views) JohnTChance 09/22/2017 09:47PM
Re: No ROTW (1217 Views) TGJB 09/23/2017 03:00AM
Re: No ROTW (1056 Views) jbelfior 09/23/2017 08:00AM
Re: No ROTW (1188 Views) JohnTChance 09/23/2017 12:59PM
Re: No ROTW (1154 Views) Tavasco 09/23/2017 02:25PM
Re: No ROTW in Retrospect (1275 Views) Tavasco 09/24/2017 12:24AM


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