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Re: Figure Making Final Exams (891 Views)
Posted by: TGJB (IP Logged)
Date: November 11, 2018 06:58PM

Okay, you brought out my inner Sam Kinison.

1-- Effin SHOW HORSES?? SERIOUSLY??

I'll stipulate they're great at ten (though given your other pronouncements who knows). But what the hell have show horses got to do with racehorses? There are people who get better at games of skill as they get past 40 (I'm assuming show horses have skills), but show me the ones who GET FASTER as they age. Now, there are some who may have gotten stronger, like Bonds and Clemens. Oh, wait...

2-- SOME horses are not "physically mature" until 5 or 6. SOME can maintain their physical condition for several years. SO WHAT??? How does even that address his point, let alone your silly pronouncement making it ALL horses? What does it have to do with this?

Yes, I've given 8yos new tops. But a) there are outside factors that affect horse's performances, like barn changes, and they factor into almost if not all of them. And b) this was a heavily raced grass horse that ran a 7 1/2 point new top. He went in one shot from not in the top 100 fastest grass horses of all time to number one. Faster than Frankel, faster than Wise Dan, faster than whoever you want, by a lot. The second horse got weight and saved ground, but he's probably number two off his previous Servis induced figure.

3-- The "good ones are retired young" thing is a completely bogus logical fallacy. We have plenty of data on development from the tens of thousands that DON'T get retired, you can look at the TGI's to track the stallions in that regard. Or you could if you looked at TG. There is no "normal", your pronouncement notwithstanding.

4-- Pete Miller used to train for me, we had a falling out years ago but we still are friendly enough when we see each other, and he has a great wife. But I feel compelled to point out the fastest DIRT figure of the BC was thrown by Roy H, who didn't jump as much THIS TIME in one shot, but developed 12 points from his 4yo top to get to a neg 6.

5-- I'm not going to even get into your subsequent replies to other guys. You got off easier than you should have, either because they're being nice, don't care, or critical analysis is dead.



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