Re: Pletcher (242 Views)
Posted by: Silver Charm (IP Logged)
Date: July 21, 2026 11:55AM
I want to add to my previous Chart and ask "If this was a stock would you want to buy it right now?
Pletcher:
Year-Starts-Wins-Earnings
2022-1202-222-$30,300,000-Forte Positive
2023-980-186-$27,069,024-Mind Control Positive
2024-800-142-$19,877,016
2025-729-142-$19,187,793-Vassimo Positive
Partial Year
2026-327-56-$8,099,931
0-36 for his last 36 races on Dirt. Has not won a Dirt Race in 2 Months
Do you want to bet into this because he is DUE?
Now I have heard some others cite some good examples about the rise of other Trainers. Fair enough. However here is what is happening underneath. WinStar is a solid outfit with good people. They won a Triple Crown with Baffert (Justify) then had to fend off all the criticism and heat after it was disclosed the horse had a drug positive in the Santa Anita Derby. Except no one found about it for a couple of years because the Racing Board in California covered it up. Think about what I just wrote. Imagine if this was the Security and Exchange Commission (SEC).
Life is Good was with Winstar and he was with Baffert. Got hurt. Baffert had another scandal and they moved the horse to Pletcher. They have moved all their horses from Baffert and most went to Pletcher. And now they are moving to Cox once they got HIM to winter and train in Florida. Not an Assistant, HIM! They still have a few with Pletcher but monitor how long that lasts. Cox won the 1st on Saturday at Saratoga with a Life is Good 2YO owned by Winstar. Cox later won with a Monomoy Girl Baby. Well he trained Monomoy Girl so this makes sense correct? Except Baffert got the very first once. Does Spendthrift still have horses with Baffert and if so how many? Why would they leave, they won a Derby with him?
I am calling Balls and Strikes here people. Unless a WT Young of the old Overbrook Farm drops out of the sky these Empires are not coming back. And I get it there are New Guys out there who are good. And who currently wants to dump $40M into California Racing Ownership. Maybe Kentucky or New York. But California? Naaaah. So there are also other factors to consider. But look they had a Comet like rise, and then the current fall. And maybe they both happened for the exact same reason.....
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/21/2026 12:01PM by Silver Charm.
Pletcher:
Year-Starts-Wins-Earnings
2022-1202-222-$30,300,000-Forte Positive
2023-980-186-$27,069,024-Mind Control Positive
2024-800-142-$19,877,016
2025-729-142-$19,187,793-Vassimo Positive
Partial Year
2026-327-56-$8,099,931
0-36 for his last 36 races on Dirt. Has not won a Dirt Race in 2 Months
Do you want to bet into this because he is DUE?
Now I have heard some others cite some good examples about the rise of other Trainers. Fair enough. However here is what is happening underneath. WinStar is a solid outfit with good people. They won a Triple Crown with Baffert (Justify) then had to fend off all the criticism and heat after it was disclosed the horse had a drug positive in the Santa Anita Derby. Except no one found about it for a couple of years because the Racing Board in California covered it up. Think about what I just wrote. Imagine if this was the Security and Exchange Commission (SEC).
Life is Good was with Winstar and he was with Baffert. Got hurt. Baffert had another scandal and they moved the horse to Pletcher. They have moved all their horses from Baffert and most went to Pletcher. And now they are moving to Cox once they got HIM to winter and train in Florida. Not an Assistant, HIM! They still have a few with Pletcher but monitor how long that lasts. Cox won the 1st on Saturday at Saratoga with a Life is Good 2YO owned by Winstar. Cox later won with a Monomoy Girl Baby. Well he trained Monomoy Girl so this makes sense correct? Except Baffert got the very first once. Does Spendthrift still have horses with Baffert and if so how many? Why would they leave, they won a Derby with him?
I am calling Balls and Strikes here people. Unless a WT Young of the old Overbrook Farm drops out of the sky these Empires are not coming back. And I get it there are New Guys out there who are good. And who currently wants to dump $40M into California Racing Ownership. Maybe Kentucky or New York. But California? Naaaah. So there are also other factors to consider. But look they had a Comet like rise, and then the current fall. And maybe they both happened for the exact same reason.....
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/21/2026 12:01PM by Silver Charm.
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