On Steve Byk's show yesterday (a little after 3 minutes of Part 2), Andy Serling asked a question about sheet figures for Independence Hall in the Jerome versus the Nashua. I think he was committing the unpardonable sin of conflating Ragozin and ThoroGraph.

https://stevebyk.com/broadcast/part-2-andy-serling-jon-white-2/

Later in the show, there is a discussion of herding (Lone Rock v. Haikal in Race 7 at Aqu on Sunday). I'm a little confused about the definition of herding. I thought it applied when horses on the lead drifted out to keep another horse from going by. In this case, the horse allegedly doing the herding was even or a little behind.