Congratulations on using your real name. I can get everything I need from you right here out in the open, so there's no need for any email address or any other personal revelations.

You have taken cheap shots at Jerry on the Sheets board before. In fact, in addition to this carefully reasoned post, you made ANOTHER post simultaneously on the Sheets board that was a little less than carefully reasoned, and it was just removed! Somehow you didn't see fit to mention this part of your campaign. But your Big Brothers are at work again so now no one can see it.

This is not a 'personal attack'. My point stands. I'm not addressing your handicapping points, I'm addressing how you go about doing things.

You didn't JUST post over here, where there can be a response. You posted over there too, where you know there wouldn't be any dialog at all. Why did you write that post over there, Dave? You had already made your points here. Maybe you like to blow your own horn, like you're doing now on the thread to Tiznow, referring everyone over here to see your genius in print.

They don't just delete the 'churlish' posts David, they delete Jerry's too. They leave up the stuff that criticizes and addresses him directly and then they delete his responses. Not a peep out of you. If you don't like the facts, you just leave them out, right Dave? And if it looks like you're screwing up (like your post that they just deleted), they cover your ass. So much for your 'meaningful exchange on handicapping theory'. It may be possible over here, but not on your turf.

Don't tell me you're not aware that they delete Jerry's posts. I have to hand it to Robes, at least his position is consistent. You're something else entirely. You seek to take advantage of a competitor's forum to address differences while endorsing the competitor's deletion of any posts on this subject. At the same, you use your protected forum to fire off attacks on Jerry knowing full well that Jerry can't respond over there. Perfectly okay with you to confine any real debate to THIS forum, while you are free to post your nonsense over there. The more I think about this, the more you disgust me.

The challenge stands. Exotics are fine. $20 a race. If you beat me I may stop handicapping altogether.

As for your comments on War Emblem, he looks to me like he's going to back up on both products, but he might win anyway depending on who else goes. HP