JB has already handled much of this. What's left?

David Patent writes: "Alydar, you are 100 percent correct on the epistemology/teleology issue. My mistake."

Thank you for admitting your error, David.

Patent writes: "It has been 18 years since my justice class with Sandel."

Why did you write this sentence, David? There is a Sandel who teaches at Harvard. He is fairly well known. And on a different string, you wrote that you went to law school. Are you trying to tell us that you are a Harvard-educated lawyer? Why tell us? Why not prove it with the logic of your arguments?

Patent writes: "I have already dealt with your and Alydar's point on how you get a tight range without changing variants within a race. All you need is to start with the hypothesis that you start with--the tight range hypothesis. As long as you apply it to every race then your ranges will work out nicely."

This is illogical crap. You have never made figures using the projection method, David. If you start making figures in a phony tight range, and if those figures are inaccurate, your figures will come apart at the seams. HP was right. You are making a fool out of yourself. See if you can follow this: A phony tight range means inaccurate numbers. When projecting figures, inaccurate numbers have the same effect as inaccurate result charts--everything goes to hell. THE HORSES ARE COMING OUT OF DIFFERENT RACES.

Patent writes: "I'm not disagreeing with that math."

Earlier, on the identical question, Patent wrote: "Jerry--your math here is just wrong."

Patent writes some BS about not remembering the bet JB proposed to him:

David. You split the strings to cover your own ineptitude. Look the damn thing up. It "invalidates" half of your latest argument.

Patent writes that he has bought Thoro-Graph twice and is convinced Rags is better.

Why am I not surprised?

Going against the thrust of his previous statement, Patent writes that track maintenance doesn't significantly change the speed of the track.

Read Bruno De Julio in the archives. Read Jack Kaenal in "A Breed Apart." Lose your blind faith. Open your eyes.

Patent writes that Ragozin's office is "a bunch of communist/socialists."

Nonsense, David. If you read the Sheets board, you would know that Friedman wrote that Ragozin's office had conservatives and mushy liberals, too.

Patent writes: "[JB] doesn't care about the track surface."

Later, Patent writes: "It's not about motive, it's about philosophy."

David, I still have a soft spot for you, but I have to tell you that you have become a damn joke. If you disagree with this assessment, please let me know. I will happily argue this with you until there is nothing left to argue about. Never have I been so confident.