Most of the training and breeding stats that are included in the TG sheets can not be found in the Racing Form. TG gives their figures for the dam of the runner (breaking them down into sprint/route and dirt/turf), as well as the numbers for the dam's other offspring. For example, you could have seen that Came Home's dam had produced mainly sprinters (even the AP Indy horse was a sprinter). Because Came Home was a Derby contender, everybody knew this info, but if he were a relatively unknown horse stretching out to a mile and a quarter, the info would have helped. TG gives trainer/jockey ROI stats that can be very helpful, stats which are not included in the Form. I could go on, but I suggest you take a look at the product, decide for yourself. As for the post on the other board today, I am sure it turned off a lot of Ragozin users. To drop to the level of questioning your competitors work ethic in order to get ahead in the figures game is a bit stupid.