hi, a couple of points:

#1 thoro has made many improvements over the years while rags has stagnated.

their inability to get on the net speaks for itself.

#2 thoro's trainer, jock and sire stats are very helpful as are the siblings history.

#3 the only way to prove who has the better numbers is to take a scientific sample of races where there is a big difference in the numbers and show how it would affect the betting.

#4 the one thing that worries me is that it seems jerry spends a lot of time responding or instigating these flames back and forth when i feel he should put that into his work.

#5 badmouthing one's competitors is unfortunately a way of life for most, especially on the racetrack. i.e freedom of speech. (when i called rags they siad jerry couldn't pay his fedex bill.)

all in all i just want to hear about handicapping.