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Re: Belmont Day (849 Views)
Posted by: TGJB (IP Logged)
Date: June 17, 2002 04:09PM

3) When I say nothing was done to the Belmont, I mean I didn’t subtract anything extra—the race got the figure it did because of the speed (or slowness) of the track. If you remember your speed chart you might recall that if a track gets slower, the effect in raw time is more dramatic as the distances get longer. The track was very slow on Belmont Day (Explicit got a negative number for shading 1:10) and the effect was magnified on the mile and a half race.

I wasn’t making figures when Secretariat ran. Sarava ran worse than Easy Goer and Point Given, better than A.P. Indy (wildly overrated) and Commendable. In general, as I’ve said countless times, race horses are getting better.

4) Like Ragozin and Beyer I make slight adjustments to each race. All other issues aside, teletimer and hand times aren’t perfectly accurate, and wind changes speed and direction during a race, so even if the track speed is unchanged you make small adjustments to each race based on the horses—in this case the track was the same 1 to 5, and my adds and subtracts were up to ¾ of a point, which is less than usual, if anything.

No, we do not use a “par time” for all types of races. When you start making your data base you use older horse claiming races for pars, because they are more predictable, but once you get even a reasonably solid data base you make your figures using the previous figure histories of the horses—it gives you way more “data points” (like 80 a day) to use than just using the winners of 3 or 4 races.

What I do when I approach a day is to start by going through quickly, taking each race on it’s own, to see if there is an obvious variant (or 2 possible choices) that make that race look really good. If there isn’t, I skip it, and go to the next one. After my first pass I usually have corrections over about half the races, and the day starts to take shape—the 2 routes might be within a point, so I’ll look at that variant for the third one, the sprints might have moved 4 points from the first to the last, so I’ll look at the middle races in that light, etc.



TGJB



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Re: Belmont Day (855 Views) Robert Dwyer 06/16/2002 01:07AM
Re: Belmont Day (851 Views) Robert Dwyer 06/16/2002 11:07AM
Re: Belmont Day (831 Views) TGJB 06/16/2002 05:37PM
Re: Belmont Day (941 Views) superfreakicus 06/17/2002 01:55AM
Re: Belmont Day (836 Views) TGJB 06/17/2002 03:29PM
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Re: Belmont Day (940 Views) TGJB 06/17/2002 04:31PM
Re: Belmont Day (825 Views) Robert Dwyer 06/17/2002 03:37AM
Re: Belmont Day (849 Views) TGJB 06/17/2002 04:09PM
Re: Belmont Day (938 Views) superfreakicus 06/17/2002 04:27PM
Re: Belmont Day (963 Views) TGJB 06/17/2002 04:39PM
Re: Belmont Day (971 Views) HP 06/17/2002 04:48PM
Re: Belmont Day (902 Views) superfreakicus 06/17/2002 05:01PM
Re: Belmont Day (936 Views) superfreakicus 06/17/2002 06:05PM
Re: Belmont Day (853 Views) Jerry Jr. 06/17/2002 06:26PM
Re: Belmont Day (875 Views) nunzio 06/17/2002 06:31PM
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Re: Belmont Day/Q's for Brown (937 Views) JimP 06/17/2002 09:30PM
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Re: Belmont Day (942 Views) TGJB 06/17/2002 06:38PM
Better than AP Indy??? Ouch! (953 Views) Michael D. 06/17/2002 08:03PM
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