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Question for TG - Ohio Breds (1766 Views)
Posted by: Treadhead (IP Logged)
Date: March 18, 2002 09:19AM

Look out for those Ohio breds, they are dangerous! I actually like USS Tinosa better than Harlan at this point, I'm not convinced that Harlan will have an effort left come derby time, this had been an awfully tough winter for him.

Here is the question, you made a point last weekend about a maiden race at GP that you could not make figures for because of a changing track and many of the horses were first time starter and made the comment that "no one with a conscience" could do so.

You show several figures for USS Tinosa run on the Ohio circuit, even one from Beulah Park, the absolute armpit of the racing world. If there is a more rundown, piece of garbage racing facility in the US, I'd sure like to see it (I can say this because it's my home track).

Question, how were these figures calculated? Are you maintaining pars for the ohio tracks, reviewing/watching tapes of all the races there on a regular basis? If so, why are you not selling figures for the Ohio circuit if you are already going thru this trouble? If not, aren't these numbers just a guess? If they are a guess, how can you (in good conscience) place them on the same sheet along side legitimate numbers without some sort of designation that the figure was made somewhat out of thin air? Are we to understand that you did not have enough confidence to make figures for that GP race, but you do for the ohio races where you (presumably) have far less data?

Sorry if this comes off as inflamitory, that is not my intent. It's just a little confusing that's all.

Finally, to HP (or was it Mall), could you read me back my derby comments from your notebook? I think I said something about Siphonic and Came Home not being a factor in the derby, but I can't quite remember. LOL



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Question for TG - Ohio Breds (1766 Views) Treadhead 03/18/2002 09:19AM
Re: Question for TG - Ohio Breds (1170 Views) TGJB 03/18/2002 01:51PM
Re: Question for TG - Ohio Breds (1184 Views) Treadhead 03/18/2002 04:07PM
Re: Question for TG - Ohio Breds (1127 Views) TGJB 03/18/2002 04:45PM


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