You guys just never get tired of getting the crap kicked out of you in public.
1) Correct.

2) Correct. Someone associated with Ragozin(I can guess who)then told Alex Rodriguez, who was handling the whole thing for Gulfstream, that they would give a seminar too, for free, with Ragozin giving it. I told Alex that was extrememly unlikely, since they never have given a free seminar, and Ragozin never leaves New York. Sure enough, it turned out they weren't going to give a seminar, and Ragozin wasn't coming. He still gave them a table, despite the fact they were doing NOTHING for Gulfstream customers, only helping themselves. They also allowed Hardoon to give 5 days of handicapping get togethers, more than they deserved.

3) Stauffer gets free sheets from us, and occasionally gives a seminar. Harvey Pack got free sheets from Ragozin. Among the things he did--

a) Introduced Ragozin on air for 30 minutes, and replayed the show 3 times.
b) Banned anyone from mentioning Thoro-Graph on air(lots of his guests used our figures).
c) Banned Bill Finley, who had previously been a regular, for 2 years, because he was on the same show as me(Post Time). When Post Time went off the air, Pack allowed Bill back. He introduced him as follows: "We're letting Bill Finley back on the show. He did something wrong, but I've decided to forgive him."
d) In the Paddock Club at Saratoga, calling TG the "cheap sheets", and saying other derogatory things about us. I eventually threatened to sue, and Alan Gutterman of NYRA made Harvey stop.
As I pointed out above, the fact that Ragozin had a table in ANY location was more than they deserved, since they were doing NOTHING for Gulfstream or their customers.

4) As far as I know, Nebel has been barred from Florida tracks twice. Once was for trying to sell passes the track gave him to hand out free to big bettors. I don't remember what the other time was for, or which track, and it was a long time ago. It's always possible I remember that one wrong, but I don't think so.
As far as the taping- thank you for letting me bring that up again. As those who were on this site a year ago know, our lawyer sent a letter to Ragozin advising him that we were aware of several unfair business practices his employees were engaging in. We also sent along transcripts of conversations our Private Detective had(and taped)with Ragozin employees, in which they lied about us. We made the letter public, it created a big stink, and TO THIS DAY THE RAGOZIN OFFICE HAS NEVER RESPONDED.
You can draw your own conclusions. If you want we can post the lawyer's letter again, but if you have Ragozini's interests at heart I wouldn't advise it.

5) Jennifer Burke uses our data, and quotes from it when she discusses the races(see Harvey Pack, 3, above).

6) A few weeks ago we started a promotional campaign in Florida(and since then in New York and Chicago)where customers who bought a set of sheets for the primary track were getting a free copy of the simulcast book. Believe me, we weren't losing money. We began charging for the simulcast package in Florida after the seminar.
We pay for our shipping by check, same as your outfit. That "cash" claim is a perfect example of the Ragozin tactics, as detailed in the lawyer's letter. The DRF hosted our website until a couple of weeks ago. They were getting a big chunk of sales(high five figures last year)as part of the deal, and we were getting "free" advertising. They no longer host the site, and we buy ads when we need them. Like the ads we ran for the Gulfstream seminar, promoting a FREE event that benefitted Gulfstream and its customers. Did you see any Ragozin ads?

If you're gonna come to the hoop, bring some game.



TGJB