I've been called a lot of names (several of them here), but Joe McCarthy is a first. John Reed will be disappointed.

Let's see. You have in your possession a list of people you consider to be "Dittos" and "Jerry's Kids," but you won't produce it, because doing so would be "unAmerican." Since I asked you to produce the list, I am Joe McCarthy. So what we are left with is a smear campaign against unnamed people who can't defend themselves without revealing their suspicion that they are targets of your scurrilous accusations. And everyone, target and non-target alike, who ignores your accusations will be tainted and left to twist, slowly, in the wind.

What kind of a banana republic definition of "American" are you using, Mall?

I disagree with everything else that you wrote, too:

Telling people to "think for themselves for once in their lives" is not necessarily good advice. This depends on who was doing the thinking before and who will be doing the thinking now.

If the TG-Rags weight adjustment, which has been used profitably for about 40 years, is wrong for splitting hairs at today's weights, it was also wrong for yesterday's figures, the projections based on yesterday's figures, and damn near everything else one can think of. Both TG and Rags numbers have a flow and a consistency that would be impossible if the weight adjustment were substantially and frequently inaccurate. This is easier to see on TG because of the pairs and trios, but one can also see it on Rags in the way horses react and march back to their tops. To be open to making changes based on the spur-of-the-moment testimony of one non-horse-playing physicist is to be open to doing just about anything based on the testimony of just about no one.

Things like the "Eight weeks off a top rule," whatever that is (you are oversimplifying), are based on original thinking by people who refused to be "Dittos" for the same trainers and vets whose views you are now parroting.

Your explanation for your "Jerry's Kids"- "Dittos" line doesn't make much sense when looking at the original. Stick to your guns, Mall. We need to stir things up here, even at the risk of HP (where the hell is he?) taking me seriously again.