Jim,

Actually, you're right (and that was an honest mistake on my part). As someone who liked mongoose, what had stuck in my mind was how closely HH matched him figure-wise with potential ground saved.

You mentioned "value" in your other post - I would guess most people use that concept. The issue is being a good enough handicapper (whatever tools you're using) to make that value call. Mark obviously thought HH at 3/1 did it - I would have crossed him out at that price without thinking twice(10f did not convince me). Ultimately it boils down to handicapping once again. But I agree with your figures comment (and dying with them)- when I first started using speed figures I instantly became a much worse handicapper - they were new and I was giving far too much importance to them. It takes time to learn to go back to basics and blend them (as an important piece) into the whole picture.

Jim wrote:
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> Really? I thought TG analysis said Hal's Hope would finish no
> better than 4th?
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> Interesting....