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Re: Derby Figures (1156 Views)
Posted by: TGJB (IP Logged)
Date: May 17, 2018 02:57PM

Wrong string, but I'm too lazy to fix it...

The technical figure maker's term for what they (Ragozin) did with the Derby is ridiculous. It's what happens when you are fundamentalists-- we do this process, and whatever comes out is "right", by definition, whether it makes any sense or not.

Specifically, in this case, the only possible way you could come up with what they did is to tie the race to others on the day-- when it was pissing rain, and there was 90 minutes between races. Which is a joke-- no serious figure maker would do it. (Beyer got it right).

I would love to see someone on their board ask them how they came to those figures, and to post the whole race with the figures they ran, as we do. I'm not holding my breath.

I would also point out this is two years in a row they screwed up that race-- last year they had the ground on Classic Empire way off, and after I pointed it out here, they didn't correct it, screwing their customers for the Preakness, WHO PAY THEM. Hey, it's only the Kentucky Derby.



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