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Re: Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (421 Views)
Posted by: covelj70 (IP Logged)
Date: April 15, 2014 08:26AM

anything can happen, especially this year but his sire was a sprinter. Only grades stakes the sire won were sprinting

we have seen "slow" horses win the Derby but we haven't seen a horse that wasn't bred to get the distance win the race in a long time unless the horse absolutely towered over the field figure wise heading into the race (Big Brown and Smarty)

So, you either need completely dominant figures (which no one has this year) or you need to be bred to get the distance

Since only 2 horses this year really have any combination of being relatively fast and breeding for the distance, I think it's a two horse race

Wicked Strong
Hopportunity

If you want to throw Ride on Curlin and Cairo Prince in there as horses that have run ok figures and are bred for the 1 1/4, I wouldn't arent too much but Ride on Curlin seems like more of a candidate underneath and Cairo Prince's last race certainly didn't suggest that he wanted to go any further than 1 1/8 let alone 1 1/4. And I don't buy that CP was "short" for the last race. Kirian is a great horsemen, he doesn't run short horses in big races

Obviously CC has been impressive but he's not faster than the others and he's not bred for the distance so he's tough for me to play

Don't let me talk you off of Danza if you like him because I am wrong all the time about this stuff but you won't get me betting that a sprinter will sire a derby winner



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Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (972 Views) covelj70 04/13/2014 01:38PM
Re: Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (584 Views) TreadHead 04/13/2014 02:05PM
Re: Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (511 Views) jerry 04/15/2014 01:33AM
Re: Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (364 Views) miff 04/15/2014 11:47AM
Re: Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (338 Views) TreadHead 04/15/2014 04:30PM
Re: Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (423 Views) louisvilleguy1111 04/15/2014 07:27AM
Re: Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (421 Views) covelj70 04/15/2014 08:26AM
Re: Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (383 Views) miff 04/15/2014 08:58AM
I'm not ready to toss Cairo on 4/15. (415 Views) toppled 04/15/2014 09:14AM
Re: I'm not ready to toss Cairo on 4/15. (409 Views) miff 04/15/2014 09:30AM
Re: I'm not ready to toss Cairo on 4/15. (387 Views) toppled 04/15/2014 10:03AM
Re: I'm not ready to toss Cairo on 4/15. (368 Views) big18741 04/15/2014 10:44AM
Re: I'm not ready to toss Cairo on 4/15. (377 Views) miff 04/15/2014 11:05AM
Re: I'm not ready to toss Cairo on 4/15. (412 Views) pizzalove 04/15/2014 01:01PM
Re: I'm not ready to toss Cairo on 4/15. (342 Views) toppled 04/15/2014 04:13PM
Re: I'm not ready to toss Cairo on 4/15. (350 Views) miff 04/15/2014 05:59PM
Re: Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (371 Views) louisvilleguy1111 04/15/2014 01:05PM
Re: Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (364 Views) covelj70 04/15/2014 01:56PM
Re: Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (322 Views) jerry 04/15/2014 04:49PM
Re: Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (379 Views) covelj70 04/15/2014 04:57PM
Re: Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (345 Views) touchgold 04/15/2014 05:20PM
Re: Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (331 Views) jerry 04/15/2014 05:31PM
Re: Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (371 Views) touchgold 04/15/2014 05:32PM
Re: Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (363 Views) covelj70 04/15/2014 05:43PM
Re: Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (346 Views) jimbo66 04/15/2014 05:52PM
Re: Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (320 Views) touchgold 04/15/2014 05:53PM
Re: Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (377 Views) TGJB 04/15/2014 05:56PM
Re: Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (416 Views) miff 04/15/2014 08:23AM
Re: Like I said, Danza = Ice Box....lol (355 Views) TreadHead 04/15/2014 11:27AM


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