I purchased the early Derby/Oaks package and was shocked by some of the numbers. Maybe those with more expertise can enlighten me. After watching all of the preps multiple times, there is no way Vicar is as fast as CC. However, that is exactly what the figs are telling me. Does anyone else think that the La Derby was as fast of a race as the Sa Derby, or for that matter the San Felipe? I would have to strongly disagree. But hey, that's what makes betting the Derby so much fun:)