Re: Travers handicapping discussion (823 Views)
Posted by:
richiebee (IP Logged)
Date: August 21, 2014 10:55PM
Ollie Wrote:
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> I firmly believe nothing is beating Wicked Strong
> on Saturday. He is a completely different runner
> now, that the blinkers have been added. JAJ
> remedied the problem, which had caused the horse
> to look around during his races --- being
> unfocused, along with the head turning, veering in
> and out in response to the whip, making wrong lead
> changes --- which cost him valuable time, and
> distance.
>
>
> Suggest people go back and review his raw talent,
> that was on display in the Remsen last year. He
> was thrust into the race just after breaking his
> maiden. All the negative items cited above were on
> display for all to see. And despite all that, he
> still almost pulled it off, and won the race. He
> was also virtually the only horse to make up any
> appreciable amount of ground in the Aqueduct
> stretch that entire day, and that was with Cairo
> Prince and Honor Code, (the two front runners),
> setting dawdling fractions to boot. So, how just
> how good was he, even with all the greenness and
> immaturity shown?
>
>
> Granted, the Remsen was nine months, and we all
> know how much can change in that period of time,
> don't we? That applies to both, good things, as
> well as bad things. Now that the power and the raw
> talent have been harnessed, I believe strongly, we
> are not even close to seeing the best out of this
> horse. For me, he just moved to a different
> plateau. If I can get 7/2 on him, I'll consider it
> a gift.
>
>
> As Always, the Best of Luck to All !!!
Thanks "Ollie".
Just a technical question. Are you able to type the post once, and then transmit
the text to both Ragozin and TG simultaneously? Is it possible you can post in
one place and then link it on the other site? Just curious.
I checked both posts -- the Shermanator post on Rags, the Ollie post here --to
see if you discussed Rag #s there and TG #s here, only to find that, well...
List of excuses for not discussing performance figures on a performance figure
forum:
1) I do not order the figures until race day.
2) The dog ate my figures.
3) I have been making my own performance figures for 25 years.
4) I can use the Beyer figure, the closing number on the S&P 500, and the 1 PM
temperature in Central Park in a formula which yields with amazing accuracy a
horse's Rag and TG number.
I guess I could be called equally guilty of ignoring performance figures by
saying the two colts I like in The Travers on Saturday are not among the fastest
in the field based on their TG #s.
Without knowing anything about track condition or how the horses will appear in
the paddock on what looks to be a relatively cool day, my current opinion would
be that both Maragh (Wicked Strong) and Rosario (Tonalist) will be facing a
dilemma when they see Bayern out winging it early. The pace set by Bayern and the
tactics utilized by Maragh and Rosario are huge here and I am wondering if the
man you call JAJ and/or Chris Clement ever considered entering a bunny to keep
Bayern honest. I know lots of folks would say that's not cricket, but we're
talking $1.25 million here.
Right now I am liking two colts trained by HOF trainers. Each of these colts is
seeking their first graded stakes win on dirt in a tough spot. The price will be
there.