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Re: No repect for Came Home (1370 Views)
Posted by: Mark O'Keeffe (IP Logged)
Date: April 27, 2002 07:29PM

OK.

So we have a pattern that can't be called an 0-2-x.

I'm no expert on TG patterns, but this is how i view his overall record;

breaks maiden 1st time out. good sign.

improves 9.25 points and pairs it on 6 weeks rest. good sign.

bounces off cross country ship and 8 weeks rest. 8 weeks off suggests a physical problem, but the bounce was still a better figure than his worst figure to date. So i see it more positively than negatively.

3 months later, he runs a career top, 4 points better than his best.

next start is 1st try at 2 turns and he wins by daylight with just a slight bounce (1.25 points).

In the derby, while not 100% cranked up for it, he wins by daylight with, granted, a slower figure than his previous race, but still faster than his best at 2 years old.
I view this as positive developement. Even when he's off, he's fast and consistant.

He gets 4 weeks rest, ships to CD and works faster than he did before SA derby. He clearly loves CD and clearly is over any illness. If he gets back to his top, which is not impossible, he wins by daylight.

One last thing: didn't his sire, Gone West, sire a Belmont Stakes winner?
Remember, these 3 yo horses are typical of the way horses are bred today: speed, no stamina. Thunder Gulch, Real Quiet, Charismatic and Monarchos weren't supposed to win on breeding either, so I think that angle is not as useful as it was in the past when really good horses were running.
Interesting discussion, though. Keep it comin!

MO



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No repect for Came Home (2051 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/27/2002 01:58PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1226 Views) kevin s 04/27/2002 02:30PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1227 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/27/2002 02:57PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1250 Views) Michael D. 04/27/2002 03:00PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1349 Views) derby1592 04/27/2002 04:29PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1264 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/27/2002 07:09PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1243 Views) derby1592 04/27/2002 07:15PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1370 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/27/2002 07:29PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1309 Views) derby1592 04/27/2002 07:45PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1347 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/27/2002 08:30PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1250 Views) derby1592 04/27/2002 09:31PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1373 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/27/2002 10:01PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1214 Views) nunzio 04/27/2002 10:19PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1253 Views) Treadhead 04/28/2002 01:51AM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1248 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/28/2002 02:12AM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1332 Views) Excitable Boy 04/28/2002 03:07AM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1224 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/28/2002 10:53AM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1300 Views) fastspeed 04/28/2002 02:45PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1208 Views) Treadhead 04/28/2002 04:12PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1256 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/29/2002 03:14AM
Breeding (1237 Views) Excitable Boy 04/27/2002 11:59PM
Re: Breeding (1228 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/28/2002 01:21AM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1267 Views) Treadhead 04/27/2002 07:36PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1325 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/27/2002 08:27PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1238 Views) David Manley 04/27/2002 09:27PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1239 Views) nunzio 04/27/2002 09:40PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1321 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/27/2002 09:53PM


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