I was only respnding to the discussion about breeding for Ky Derby. I go by dosage index first and then look at the sire and dam next. The discussion has been that so and so is bred for the derby distance and so and so is not. My point is that despite the fact that many or most of the entrants qualify on dosage, they really aren't bred for stamina, but for speed.

One of the criteria for accepting a horse on his dosage profile prior to say 1995 was that the horse must have points in his stamina wing. Thunder Gulch had 0. I'm not sure about Monarchos or some others, but many horses today are below the 4.00 mark yet still have no points in the stamina wing which up until about 1995 translated into NO SHOT at winning the derby, even if his dosage was below 4.00.

Your point about Florida is a good one. Means Harlans Holiday has NO SHOT. I have other reasons to toss him, but your point seals my decision.

The climate in Florida during that meet is nothing like that of Kentucky, New York or California for that matter. Florida is very humid compared to those other states and high humidity often affects horses negatively.

Last point regarding Florida - some horses love it and can't pick up a hoof ANYWHERE else, just like I predicted about Hal's Hope after I picked him to win Gulf Hcp. (said he'd be off the board in next start and he was.)

MO