TGJB,

Been reading both boards for awhile. And well aware of the "do tracks change speed during the day" debate, where they believe only in "cataclysmic weather conditions", can that happen. (And their view is that u start every race by assuming all horses pair) - slight exaggeration. I watched an expo years ago where u and Beyer were in agreement on the topic of changing track speeds. (I think)

Perhaps I misread the post by flighted. I thought he said he was looking at a wet track from a different day, at a different track, for a 1 1/8 race, where the winner got a "2". And was using that to estimate negative 1 1/4. E.g. 1 1/8th race at laurel in the slop where the winner got a 2.

And I have no idea what that has to do with the price of tea in China. Sloppy tracks are not homogenous from one location to another. Not even Len believes that....

Rob