Coupla things. First of all, I can't be surer of figures than I am of the Songbird race, and I say that even though they're 2yos.

Second, I just started looking at the Jake figs, but the first thing that jumps out at me is that what they did with the BC Turf is just silly, laughable. And I mean using THEIR figures to do the race. Vito etc.-- assuming you still have the BC sheets, write those figures on them. Then tell me the last time you saw a GI grass race where every single horse ran at least two points worse than his RECENT top. Look at how that race looks if you take off two. I'm going to use the term again--figure making malpractice.

As far as how their figures came out looking on the two days compared to ours, I'll let everyone draw their own conclusions. It's tougher with Jakefigs, since they only post last number (and they do sometimes post the entire sheets of races when it makes them look good, so you can draw your own conclusions about that too), but the guys who used their sheets probably still have them.