A couple of weeks ago while wagering from "living room downs", I was listening to the "handicappers" on TVG. I don't remember their names so bare with me. One of the regulars often refers to TG and is by far the most knowledgeable. They were debating about graph numbers being misleading for closers. The opinion was based on the fact that closers are more likely to lose ground while passing tiring horses. I understand that the final number is based on more than just lost ground but ground loss is part of the formula. Do any of you factor in or take off points for closers or simply toss them? The reason why I ask is that I know a lot of players who will only bet speed but don't know of many who key on closers because of the likelihood that they will have traffic problems. Would love to hear opinions!!! Thanks and Good Luck to all!!!!

Bill