When Downs After Dark racing ended in June, I went down in the paddock area to see the party that would be happening there. Before I made it there, I ran into Travis Stone who was with his friends as he was leaving (just be aware that he is close to the Casse barn when you see morning lines with Casse' horses as you may see a bias he wouldn't recognize).

Anyway, I spoke to him about his Spa morning lines in a joshing manner. He didn't take it very kindly and pushed on me to explain further. So I responded "What about Seven Forty Seven who you had at 12-1 and went off about 6-5?" His reply tells you everything you will need to know about his understanding of a m/l.....

He said (and I paraphrase but this is very, very close) [i]I'll tell you just like I told my friends, 'that horse didn't win til this spring.'[/i] I immediately said It doesn't matter whether the horse won or not, what matters is what the odds were that day! We parted ways after that.

On a final note, many of these guys making a m/l don't have the math right whatsoever for figuring out the morning line (their "points" add up way too high but I'll leave it at that without getting more technical). I believe I saw Stone discuss his method once around Derby time indicating he doesn't do it correctly in my opinion.