I think both of the horses you mention have a shot. I think you need to use World Approval as well. No reason he can't put up another zero and gets the rail. I also like the line on Grenville Gardens at 20-1 ml, although he certainly wasn't helped by the draw. Long on value is interesting....like his pattern but not sure he wants a mile. His recent routes haven't been inspiring but had some good routing numbers a couple of years back. He should get a nice rail trip but not sure he will hold on. Thinking I'll box the first 4 : world approval, Lancaster bomber, Grenville gardens ands world approval and may throw lov in with a few combinations.