Ruffian Fan-- I agree the connections have done a good job, I'm just questioning who they are, and how they've done it. Either--

1) The Ragozin office is advising them, and advised them to run in a spot Friedman himself said was hopeless, or

2) The "client" is making decisions on their own.

The point being this-- when Len and Jake make those congratulatory posts they phrase them very carefully. Don't know what the real degree of participation was with VE or Ramsey's horse, but for the most part Ragozin "clients" are like DRF clients-- they sell them bulk data, at a very low price (you can get a sheet on a million dollar horse you are considering buying for, I believe, $15), and those guys use "the number" the same way DRF buyers use the Beyers. I can't tell you how many times (most recently last week) we have tried to buy a horse and had the owner tell us the Rag numbers, which they got for the price of a week's worth of DRF's.

I get somewhere between 50 to 100 calls a year asking us whether we offer the same service. We don't, because while lots of people can bet on a horse, only one can own it, so we feel service to horsemen is worth a lot more, and should be charged for accordingly.

Our record indicates we are right-- ask Ro Parra (owner of Even The Score) whether he agrees. And if the Ragozin office's record was as good as they try to make it appear, they could charge what I do.



TGJB