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Re: Geroux's Comments (1313 Views)
Posted by: Dana666 (IP Logged)
Date: June 11, 2018 09:36AM

So what is the point of all this? They're upset because Baffert had a plan, one that is perfectly legal by the way, and it worked. They need to get over it. Yes, the stewards should have taken a look, for sure, but even the NBC commentators said it was perfectly legit. How about all the previous failed triple crown attempts where horses were purposely attacked and taken out of their game so as not to win the crown? I can name quite a few. So what, this time it worked the other way. I didn't know Repole was such a cry baby. He wins enough on the NYRA circuit not to complain about anything.

I mean, for me, what stands out is how easy it all went after that. The whole thing was sort of anti-climactic. Those fractions were pedestrian at best. A bunch of slow, distance challenged (save Gronk) horses in futile chase mode. Gronk ran a tremendous race I thought given the fractions.

One other take away from this race is one has to weigh heavily any attempt EVER to beat the Browns, Bafferts, and Pletchers, not Saturday but most days, (a few others you could throw in) of the world.

How many people touted Mott's horse??? Mott is one of those old school trainers who has outstanding stock and wins like what 10-15 % of his races; and there are an awful lot of them. You bet these guys and you'll go broke fast; yeah, once in a while something jumps up, but overall they cannot complete with the super-charged barns. Bet Mandella on the west coast, you'll talk to yourself. I'm sure you all could come up with many more old schoolers who for the most part cannot hack it anymore. Have you ever seen a Jimmy jerkins horse run two good races in a row? Seldom happens. I'm going to stop wasting money on these hall of famers, because their era has passed. I alwsy try to be non-biased but I'm fast coming up with a list of trainers I simply will not ever play.

I remember years ago when the California trainers first started performance enhancing shall we shall and Charlie Whittingham suddenly became a 5% winning trainer. I thought Charlie must have forgot how to train horses or something.

Yeah Mott's going to beat Baffert. not in this universe. I mean, seriously, why do we spend so much time handicapping, all this money for all these products, sheets, workouts, racing forms, etc. Chad brown takes over; forget that the horse ran slow numbers in mile races on polytrack. he'll get lit up today. He only had the horse for a couple weeks. if he had him for a month he probaly wins, right?

Pletcher, Baffert, Brown, Rudy Rod, Assmussen, Brad Cox, Joe Sharp, Jason Servis, Navarro, so so many others.

OK, lastly, and this RANT will end.

Why don't they have Breeder's Cups at Belmont anymore. Could there be any more perfect venue for racing's biggest days? geez, that drives me crazy. every year so cal.



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