A few gems in here. Full interview at the link at the bottom.

[i]Gambling does not drive the industry.[/i]

AND

[i]The thing that makes the National Football League so strong is they lock all the owners in a room and they argue and fight, but when they come out, they’re unanimous in what they’re going to do that’s best for the league. That’s exactly what we need to do.[/i]

https://www.thoroughbredracing.com/articles/d-wayne-lukas-why-racing-should-be-run-same-way-nfl/