The horse that won the Derby was "FuPig".

"FuSham" is his 4.5 million dollar son. FuSham has more mr. prospector in him than Yosemite Sam.

"Actual Winners" of what are frauds? Actual winners of the Derby? or Actual winners of the B.C.Classic? or Just "Actual Winners?"

FYI, FuPig was the Derby favorite at about 5-2 and the closest a Mr. Prospector had gotten to Derby Glory was 49er, but that one had a heaping helping of stamina on his back side. Hindsight makes it pretty clear that FuPig caught a very weak triple crown bunch. I just wish my Derby horse had stayed sound. He was star crossed is all.

P.S. FuPig caught the very same "Actual Winner Favorite Status" in the Breeders Cup Classic that year at 6-5 and if my memory serves every late developing 3 year old from that crop beat him up and took his lunch money. He'd dodged the best of his crop and older horses til then is my recollection as well. They saw the writing on the wall and ushered him off to a very quick retirement. Maybe I did mishandicap that year's Derby, it was totally out of line with how my selections usually run in that race, but when you know what you're doing its easy to reverse a single result.

Chuckles Derby Selection History:

2004-Smarty Jones -1st
2003-Funny Cide -1st
2002-War Emblem -1st
2001-PointGiven/Monarchos Box -Lost
2000-Anees -Also Ran
1999-Menifee -2nd
1998-Indian Charlie -3rd
1997-Captain Bodgit -2nd
1996-Cavonnier -2nd
1995-Jumron -4th
1994-Southern Rhythm -Also Ran
1993-Sea Hero -1st
1992-Lil E. Tee -1st
1991-Strike the Gold -1st
1990-Summer Squall -2nd
1989-Easy Goer -2nd
1988-Forty Niner -2nd

I made the selections for the last three openly on this board. Granted the 2002 winner under an "Ethel Mertz" type pseudonyme.

As for Lion Heart, I'm not sure he's an "actual winner" like Ghostzapper, but folks want to bad mouth him because a horse named "My Snookies Boy", ran him close in a couple races out in Jersey. I think Snookie ran his eyeballs out and Lion Heart did what he had to do. Lion was a much improved horse by the Blue Grass and I can't find any complaint with his Derby or Haskell. He was a damn good horse. I don't know if he'd of come out well head to head vs. Ghostzapper, but at least GZ would have had to run.

When Ghostzapper has to run a legimate race at 10 marks, I'll consider him an "actual winner", until then I'm sure some will understand that I'm not gonna take 2-1 on him, fastest horse of all time or not...lol

The more good press and popular acclaim a tomato can type gets the more I like it. Its good for business.

CtC



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