JB said,

"We are still waiting for ground from a couple of other guys we had look at the Derby, but the preliminary look has top two running around zero, and it's solid both with the day and the race itself-- we'll post the whole day when it's done, you can all see. The much more interesting (and tough) question is the rail-- I'm not done with that yet"


No bull, I had you giving the winner app a zero. Raw time has this one of the slowest KD's in years relative to the rather glib surface.Without ground and with the hot pace, the race comes up dead slow.Slowest last half since 1974, I read.

If you get a chance, replay some of the dirt races and watch John V and Bailey, especially, avoid the rail and stay 3-4 path allowing room inside.I just looked and I can't be certain about the rail.



miff