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Re: Juice Questions (348 Views)
Posted by: Chuckles_the_Clown2 (IP Logged)
Date: May 09, 2005 09:55PM

Buck, I'm actually very new to the "juice issue", but I've looked into it to the best of my ability and if i'm wrong someone will be sure to correct me:

Uncle Buck wrote:

> Can somebody with first hand knowledge of "the juice syndrome"
> come forward and explain to me the following points:
>
> 1. What defines Juice? I want to know what drug or combination
> of drugs is used to constitue "juice"

Any performance enhancing substance on the prohibited list, or not, which is administered to a horse with the intended effect of gettin the animal to run faster than he would without it.


> 2. What affect does it have on the animal? (Obviously they
> perform better but what is the medical estimate of how it
> affects the horse)

The current theory is that it either:

a.) increases oxygenation of the animal to stave off fatigue

or

b.) prevents the build up of muscle tiring "lactic acid" to slow down the process of fatigue.

> 3. How and when is it administered?

Snaking a tube down the horses nose immediately pre race in some cases;

Probable injections in others


> I am not being funny here. I here "juice" talk all thne time by
> experts like TGJB and Beyer and would like it explained in
> layman's terms.
>
> I see the end result of the alleged juicing and completely
> agree that juice is playing a huge roll in the industry. Dutrow
> to me seemks the worst offender. In the Oaks coverage I could
> have puked every time he said "We didn;t really do anything
> with her - she's doing it all on her own"
>
> I also have an observation to share. I think Bellamy Road and
> Point Given share an aweful lot of similarities in their paths.

There are some similarities and dissimilarities. They both fell victim to a fast pace in the Derby. They both came to the Derby on two foundational races.

However, Point Given was an honest pace horse, not a need the lead type. When Point Given was headed, he rarely caved. Point Given had a top flight 2YO campaign, Point Given didnt have to face the physical consequences of running a Negative 5 as a young 3YO and Point Given was bred sufficiently more stoutly also.

> I would expect a race like Point Given's Preakness out of BR
> should he run at Pimlico...
>
> Thanks in advance for your explanations
>
>



Post Edited (05-09-05 21:59)



Subject Written By Posted
Juice Questions (663 Views) Uncle Buck 05/09/2005 09:38PM
Re: Juice Questions (348 Views) Chuckles_the_Clown2 05/09/2005 09:55PM


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