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Derby Day (506 Views)
Posted by: Chuckles_the_Clown2 (IP Logged)
Date: May 11, 2005 01:21AM

Kentucky Derby Day:

3^,NW1X 21.97, 44.87, 1:09.63, 1:16.30
Capability-6.3/5.1
Menasha -7.2/9.1 *
3^,NW2$ 21.17, 43.78, 55.47, 1:08.03
Wildcat Shoes - Neg 1.1/Neg 3.1
Key Deputy - Neg 0.2/Neg 0.1 *
3^,NW1X 22.34, 44.85, 1:08.89, 1:15.26
CaptNCapote - 2/7 *
Maytown - 3.2/3.2
4^,200K,G2 22.37, 44.12, 1:07.85, 1:20.56
Battle Won - Neg 2/1.2 *
Level Playingfield- 0.2/Neg 0.2
2YO,100K 21.70, 44.78, 57.07
Half Ours
Five Star Holding
4^F,250K,G1 21.98, 44.37, 1:08.44, 1:21.18
My Trusty Cat - 0/0.2 *
Molta Vita - 1/1
3YO,2000K,G1 22.28, 45.38, 1:09.59, 1:35.88, 2:02.75
Giacomo - 0.2/4.2 *
Closing Argument - 1.1/3.2 *
3^,MSW 21.99, 44.75, 56.39, 1:09.03
British Attitude - 2/17 *
Dances
3^,NW1X 23.82, 46.96, 1:11.17, 1:37.53, 1:44.60
Grand View Cliffs 4/4
Prayer Service 6.1/7.2 *

Still trying to decipher the day. What was interesting to me is that TGraph had Giacomo wider than Closing Argument. Did not ascertain that, but defer entirely on that point.

The MSW after the Derby was still fast. 7 length winner, but 1.09 flat is still smoking.

The only other distance race, last race on the card was a hard fought race where the favorite was right there but just beaten out. The time may indicate a disconnect between the one and two turn races. On the basis of the sprints you'd have to figure it would have been a little faster. 1.44.60 is certainly not slow at Churchill, but it doesnt appear in line with the very quick sprints.

Toughie, this one is a real enigma other than a belief that the rail was bad and a suspicion that two turns were not as hot, Its hard to get any strong insight into it.

The problem is with the top two finishers. If the numbers are accurate they just ran big career tops and are coming back on short rest and like the Fab Four in the Derby would appear to be vulnerable. If their numbers were hard to factor and they are a couple points slower there are horses returning from the Derby that could pass them with even a near return to their best form. If they all ran without drugs in the Derby and the top two ran a couple points slower they are extremely dangerous to run one two in the preakness. However if they ran without drugs and ran those tops a bounce would seem imminent.

Have I got a headache.



Post Edited (05-11-05 01:27)



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Derby Day (506 Views) Chuckles_the_Clown2 05/11/2005 01:21AM
Re: Derby Day (316 Views) miff 05/11/2005 08:17AM
Re: Derby Day (345 Views) TGJB 05/11/2005 01:25PM


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