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Re: ZITO and LUKAS (412 Views)
Posted by: Chuckles_the_Clown2 (IP Logged)
Date: May 23, 2005 10:43PM

MO,

You are a good handicapper and your opinion carries weight. This Thunder Gulch story is puzzling, especially now that Supertrainer drugs and Ramsey's antics and Frankel's deals and Wygod's evasions and Mullins covert doings and the CHRB's ostensible "incompetence" paint a picture of tampering with races and deceiving the public. Its hard enough to cash a bet on legitimate trainer and form patterns without having to figure out the frauds.

Without contesting you're point, this is a hard one to prove it though. Tgraph folks were all over Thunder Gulch on pattern. However one factors Thunder Gulch's Derby win, he also won the Belmont and Travers and sired a Belmont winner in Point Given. Which is not to say you are in any way mistaken on the Derby event.

http://www.drf.com/tc/trail/2004/derbywinners.pdf



Post Edited (05-23-05 22:47)



Subject Written By Posted
ZITO and LUKAS (929 Views) jbelfior 05/23/2005 09:47AM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS (700 Views) Chuckles_the_Clown2 05/23/2005 09:53AM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS (710 Views) jbelfior 05/23/2005 09:56AM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS (540 Views) J-DUB 05/23/2005 07:11PM
Zito, Lukas & Alex (624 Views) Chuckles_the_Clown2 05/23/2005 08:05PM
Re: Zito, Lukas & Alex (504 Views) MO 05/23/2005 08:58PM
Re: Zito, Lukas & Alex (423 Views) davidrex 05/24/2005 07:28AM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS + Forest Danger (JB) (518 Views) jimbo66 05/23/2005 09:07PM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS (572 Views) Silver Charm 05/23/2005 09:12PM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS (615 Views) jimbo66 05/23/2005 09:20PM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS (645 Views) MO 05/23/2005 09:27PM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS (523 Views) Silver Charm 05/23/2005 09:40PM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS (519 Views) MO 05/23/2005 09:44PM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS (514 Views) Silver Charm 05/23/2005 09:49PM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS (518 Views) MO 05/23/2005 09:53PM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS (412 Views) Chuckles_the_Clown2 05/23/2005 10:43PM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS (403 Views) MO 05/23/2005 11:09PM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS (405 Views) Silver Charm 05/23/2005 11:13PM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS (471 Views) MO 05/23/2005 11:19PM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS (376 Views) gowand 05/24/2005 12:18AM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS (422 Views) 05/24/2005 08:51AM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS (405 Views) HP 05/24/2005 09:23AM
email - tape (445 Views) johndrj 05/24/2005 07:44AM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS + Forest Danger (JB) (399 Views) TGJB 05/24/2005 01:29PM
Fast and Faster and in Alex's Own Words (348 Views) Chuckles_the_Clown2 05/24/2005 02:33PM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS (529 Views) richiebee 05/23/2005 11:15AM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS (562 Views) jimbo66 05/23/2005 01:12PM
Re: ZITO and LUKAS (536 Views) Silver Charm 05/23/2005 07:53PM


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