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Re: Flying Lessons... (490 Views)
Posted by: razzle (IP Logged)
Date: September 04, 2005 09:01PM

TGJB,

"Your e-mails were about not attacking. You attacked me, unprovoked. This
is brain surgery? "

Again, my e-mails to you were about acknowledging, as this one
is("attacking" only had marginal relevance). I don't think of it as brain
surgery, I'm trying to understand your difficulty with it?

"outright stupidity"
"you and the other morons"

More non-personal attacks I suppose?

"I have not only talked about my years at Ragozin's many times here..."

I think that's as close as I'm going to get from you. It's generally on topic, but
not acknowledging.

" So who is taking false credit? "

This statement is sort of a back-handed acknowledgement in the form of a
question. You are correctly identifying that the issue raised is that of
"taking false credit" but you're doing it in a way in which your hands don't
appear dirty? Logically, whether Donaldson described a similar process in
the 30's or not, is an irrelevancy if Ragozin's father didn't work for
him(presumably he did not, nor did LR or LF,) or, if there's no reason to
believe they took their approach to figure-making from him. Unless, of
course, you are suggesting that you found the Donaldson source on your own, took it to the Ragozins, and they used it to generate their whole approach, and rushed it to press under their by-line, without giving you credit.

In any event, I don't suppose continuing this serves any purpose for either of us. For the record, personal attacks/name calling(as you've displayed here), the absence of acknowledgement of anothers' point of view, and the intellectual integrity issue of "taking false credit" are the essence of my objections. So far, my doubts are not assuaged, but I do appreciate the "airing."



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One Flew Over (897 Views) TGJB 09/04/2005 02:50PM
Re: One Flew Over (503 Views) Chuckles_the_Clown2 09/04/2005 03:47PM
Re: Flying Lessons... (544 Views) razzle 09/04/2005 06:03PM
Re: Flying Lessons... (490 Views) Chuckles_the_Clown2 09/04/2005 06:18PM
Re: Flying Lessons... (493 Views) razzle 09/04/2005 09:06PM
Re: Flying Lessons... (480 Views) Chuckles_the_Clown2 09/04/2005 09:21PM
Re: Flying Lessons... (530 Views) TGJB 09/04/2005 06:23PM
Re: Flying Lessons... (463 Views) razzle 09/04/2005 07:17PM
Re: Flying Lessons... (479 Views) TGJB 09/04/2005 07:34PM
Re: Flying Lessons... (492 Views) TGJB 09/04/2005 07:11PM
Re: Flying Lessons... (490 Views) razzle 09/04/2005 09:01PM
Re: Flying Lessons... (527 Views) TGJB 09/05/2005 02:42PM
Re: Flying Lessons... (459 Views) 09/05/2005 04:50PM
Penn Derby (508 Views) Chuckles_the_Clown2 09/05/2005 04:57PM
Re: Flying Lessons... (412 Views) razzle 09/06/2005 12:07PM
Re: Flying Lessons... (488 Views) Chuckles_the_Clown2 09/04/2005 08:56PM
Re: One Flew Over (436 Views) marcus 09/05/2005 08:12PM


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