I have been a fan of both companies, I have purchased both, I have thought long and hard because sometimes both services have problems the way I see it. I have always been able to talk to jerry and criticize him and he is not thin-skinned.

same way over at the sheets, no problems, but I have now decided only to buy thorograph because in my opinion IF YOU CAN'T GET THE DERBY CORRECT that's a big problem. the greatest race in the world. I think Len got this derby wrong by a lot, simply inexcusable.

look at the figs from both services, jerry has horse moving forward or pairing same horses on the sheets backing up and vice-versa.

so therefore I humbly crown jerry the new king!