I love New York, Saratoga, the upstate mountains, Hillary Rodham Clinton. The City is a wonderful visit. I've been to every track in New York except Finger Lakes. New Yorkers are great but for the folks in the Finger Lakes area. Over there they seem out of "Deliverance". I'm not sure why? Toxic water? Heavy Metals from industry dumping? It may be Inbreeding..."West of Ithaca".

I'm spending some time to unseat my Congressman and probably won't make the SPA this year, no plans but things can change quick too, regardless it will be my preferred wagering site. Thanks for the offer. My congressman is a bellwether and its suddenly looking iffy for him. If he goes down they will go down in droves across the country.

Funny you mention Barry Bonds and how closely linked to Steroids he is with his Homer Output suddenly increasing late in his career. He was always a good player, certainly more accomplished than Pletcher, but his power did come late.

Bonds has a better rap sheet too I think. Pletcher has a few convictions.

There's some richiebee Wrote:
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> Chuckles:
>
> Dont know why I am replying, but here goes.
>
> The same document which allows you freedom of
> expression, for which you thanked
> our host profusely, unfortunately mandates the
> following:
>
> 1) A certain NFL star, accused of hateful
> indecencies against animals, is
> innocent until proven guilty;
>
> 2) A certain NBA referee, accused of being what
> amounts to an employee of the
> Gambino crime family, is innocent until proven
> guilty;
>
> 3) A certain French horse trainer, already
> excluded from the sport in Hong
> Kong, is allowed to continue to train racehorses
> even though those horses might
> one day just as likely be seen slithering through
> the grass rather than running
> over it;
>
> 4) A certain baseball star, chasing one of the
> most iconic records in sports, is
> allowed to continue his chase even though it is
> possible he will have process
> served upon him as he crosses home plate after
> belting number 756.
>
> Aint that America/ Home of the Free
>
> Now repeat after me: "Our Todd is an awesome
> Todd."
>
> TAP will retire holding just about every major
> training record when all is said
> and done. This is not to say that he is a better
> horseman than the Whiteleys,the
> Jones boys, MacK Miller, Mott, McGaughey,
> Whittingham, the man you
> call "Jerkins", Mandella, etc.
>
> TAP has taken the model created by his mentor,
> DWL, and expanded on it and
> perfected it. TAP has built an equine empire
> whereby he has the privilege of
> training for some of the top owners in the
> country. Of course, one day someone
> will write a book about TAP just like the book
> that Steve Crist wrote about DWL
> documenting some of the high priced failures which
> never made the races. (I
> think the name of the book is "Lukas at Auction"
> and I think the book concluded
> that for all of Gene Klein's high profile
> victories with Lukas, the Klein
> stable was not profitable). .
>
> I do not know what Pletcher's lifetime record is
> in terms of number of horses
> saddled. Between 10,000 and 15,000? One positive.
> Mepivocaine. (sp)? The way
> that Pletcher's far reaching stable is run, with
> deputies given most of the
> responsibility for the day to day maintenance of
> the runners, it is almost
> unfair to hold him to the strict liability of the
> trainer responsibility rule,
> but that is the price he must pay for being the
> trainer of record for this
> large number of runners.
>
> Pletcher fought the suspension based on that one
> positive. I remember that this
> upset me at the time, that an appeal should take
> more than 2-1/2 years to run
> its course, that it was a mockery of the entire
> process. Now I kind of admire
> him, for fighting to protect what has been a clean
> record. I
> especially admire his protection of his own
> reputation when I consider the
> record of another Allday client, the man
> Robespierre calls RD2, whose runners
> routinely test positive on the NY circuit; RD2
> invariably waives his right of
> appeal, for which he is always rewarded by the
> stewards with a reduced
> suspension.
>
> Now lets get to Doc Allday, the man in the white
> Mercedes. I know nothing about
> him except what I read on this board, and that he
> is entrusted with some of the
> world's most valuable horseflesh, which includes
> RTR (when they go to breed her
> or sell her foals, the discussion will not be
> about whether her Belmont TG and
> Beyer #s were inflated). I do know that when a vet
> is under suspicion or
> eventually caught, Racing has historically not
> been kind to said vet (Doc
> Galvin, ie and "google" if you want Leonard
> Patrick, DVM; it also seems that
> Rod Stewart, Biancone's vet, is on the hot seat.)
>
> Though we disagree here, I'm glad you have
> returned. Loose cannons (I count
> myself as one) occasionally hit the target. If
> you're at the Spa this weekend,
> I'll buy you a soda pop.