David: You're undoubtedly right, particularly as the races themselves were not fixed. I really don't want to be a plaintiff anyway, & I blame the anger(which has not entirely dissipated) in my post at least a little on the see-throughs I had before I listened to Weil & Co. I saw that Brisnet is conducting a poll & that 50% of those who have responded say that the scandal will not have any impact on their wagering. I still think you were way off on the % of casual fan money on big days, excluding the Derby, but maybe there's an opportunity in the stats, since I also thought you were wrong that a lot of serious players have poor money mgmt habits. My stance seems doubtful for those who can't even stop long enough to find out if the fix is in.