It's weird sometimes that how much TG and Rags numbers can go in different ways. We all know that TG numbers are faster, thats not the point here.

EX 1: GOLD DOLLAR-- TG had him running a 8.2 11.2 Rags had it a 15- 15- I did a beyer fig, with ground loss and weight added in and came up with 15 18

EX 2: DUSTY SPIKE-- TG 4.2 6.0 rags 11 9 they had him moving forward and the byers 9 15

EX 3: PRIVATE E.-- The winner, rags had this hoss not getting back to his two yr. top yet. TG had a 1 1/2 point move off of it which looked a little better, ( I didnt care for him ) and beyer had a 4 pt. move.

To Jerry B., Rags had WINDWARD P. moving forward in the Ark. Derby, Did he on your numbers move, pair and bounce in the Derby??

Thanks.