thanks, much appreciated. VG was one of my favorite horses of all time; i have watched that tape and listened to the call probably more than you have. btw, my bet in the derby that year was VG to win, with an ex over RQ. my bet in the travers that year (after hitting the king's bishop exacta with secret firm over mint) was a huge exacta, VG over CQ & the ny bred (who was also right there within inches). solis can't be a bad jockey if so many top trainers use him, but it seems as though i get a lot of very tough beats when he rides the horses i bet.