Chuckles wrote: "Did Pete Rose do anything at anytime that was anything short of attempting to win?"

The answer is that no one other than Pete Rose himself knows the true answer to that question. What we do know is that broke the anti-gambling rule that every participant in the game is well aware of and he did it knowing the penalty. We also know that in doing so he put himself in the position of having great incentive to do something short of trying to win. (Don't give me the "he only bet on his team to win" line. We all know about "darkening form" to improve the odds.) So his motives can not be trusted. And he has admitted that his words can not be trusted.

He did the crime and now he must do the time. And the time is life. Keep him out of the game and out of the Hall of Fame.