To begin this topic i believe THOROGRAPH has a great product. But on the other hand sometimes it's almost better to just do good old style handicapping. As i already addmitted you have a nice product,but i feel as though the more you read the sheets the more you guessing you have to do. Between the sore claiming horses the maidens and first timers the layoff horses or the ones that run pretty good and then toss in a bad effort the game is crazy.I see many horses with similar patterns in races were i will always take the horse with the longest odds but it always seems like the shoreter price will always come in the win spot. In my opinion the is no wat to tell if a horse is moving forward so i tend to bet horses on the numbers they have already run, i never predict them to move forward,because after reading the sheets for the last ten years i believe nobody can predict this in a horse.