the sa derby #'s look to be the wild card figs. i think most have a pretty good grip on the east coast horses. how fast did they run out west? RHT, castledale, and imperialism are all bred to run for miles. RHT's pedigree is pretty straight forward, distance on top of very classy speed, perfect to get the job done. the pedigree's of the other two are a bit more hidden however. castle has plenty of dirt blood in him (secretariat and alydar, not too bad). he also has some of the best distance blood you can get in europe. there is no reason why he can't come flying at the end of the derby if all the speed that is currently signed up runs. i was just looking at imperial's pedigree, and it screams distance as well. langfur did his best at 7f to 1m, but imperial's dam side is filled with long winded influences.... i urge all to take new looks at those horses, assuming the figs for the sa derby come up competitive (remember, some decent horses got completely dusted in that race, with no apparent excuses).