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Re: Post Mortem (890 Views)
Posted by: TempletonPeck (IP Logged)
Date: May 23, 2016 03:43PM

mjellish Wrote:
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> And when Ex took the lead and dropped over
> on him he Nyq sure didnt wait long to veer back
> out and get out of that kickback.

I'm not sure if that was Nyquist or Gutierrez that wanted the quick lane-change, or maybe both, but it sure didn't take them long to get back out, did it?

> IMO, and its only an opinion, i dunno what else
> the jock could have done.

I tend to think this more than anything, and fwiw my feeling on Gutierrez is it's possible there is no worse rider who has won more. The race set up very poorly for them, and panned out not so well. Horse ran pretty game in defeat, and life goes on.

I think his real masterpiece of the weekend was in the BES, which was about the ride he gave Donworth in the Big 'Cap.

Having watched the replay now a few times, I am kinda thinking Velazquez did Stradivari no favors. I wonder, if he drops him to the rail, do we have a different story? Rail didn't harm Exaggerator or Cherry Wine, and could he have given Stradivari his head a little more and not fought with him so much? Kent D said he walked Exaggerator down to the rail during the parade/warm-up and thought it looked fine, so went for it, I guess Velazquez didn't, or didn't agree?



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