All very valid points. I see much the same thing. However that's why am curious, as they seem to be one of the few places that even listens to bettors. As you say, I'm curious what other people think? Frankly, it seems, if a place like this can't make this take out process work,no one can given the built in advantage they have right now. So any and all ideas would seem to help us all in the long run.

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