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Re: Triple Frown? (1133 Views)
Posted by: johnnym (IP Logged)
Date: June 10, 2018 06:28PM

Phil
After the first 7 minutes,you are making accusations that hold zero water.
How does the math not hold up?
Justify did something no other horse has ever done? No horse has ever won the triple crown without racing at two? Seems like the Math May add up.

I also find it hard to believe the other super trainers Brown,Pletcher etc does not have the funds or the means in the Sport of kings to get similar results.
I am no way saying @#$%& doesn’t happen “Juice Man” however if Baffert is that bad were is the outrage from the other trainers/owners?
I’m not blind either as Baffert’s Record in the BCC has not been hitting it out of the park latey maybe due to stricter testing.

Was Secrateriat that much of a freak in his triple crown run that all his records still hold today? Or was he helped by the Pittsburg Steelers trainers?

In order to Bring the kind of testing you are suggesting what do you think the cost would be? Maybe a 30-35% take out will pay for it? If a test result comes back dirty how does that effect the gambler who cashed his ticket?
For the majority of the owners especially in these new wave syndicates they are forming to say they do what is best for the horse I laugh.
It is always about the $$.

Your astrick analogy, I believe I read Audible went to the vet with hip issues and he did have hoof problems coming into the derby. If the ownership wants to enter a Rabbit so be it,it’s part of the sport. To not enter a horse because they don’t want to devalue there other horses breeding value well that is there choice as well.
Personally all pro sports has lost me with free agency and it has continued downwards especially the NFL. How does that relate to horse racing?
For me I enjoy getting attached to a horse and rooting for it Zenyatta,Curlin etc to retire a horse at 3 before they are even fully developed to make them a full time jizz donator well that just does wonders for the sport doesn’t it?

Horse racing is my last vise and I’m sure the same people who are putting a gun to your head to play this sport are the same people putting the gun to my head.
I wish you continued success and keep searching for that level playing field anywhere in life and when you find it let us know.
All the best
John



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