I couldn't help but notice how different the Beyer figs were from the TG figs for some of the Atto contenders. I think Beyer has some real problems with turf figures. Granted, they are tougher to make because there are sometimes fewer races to work with. Plus the pace can have a huge impact, but the Beyers are really somewhat useless at times. You have to either use TG or really dig into the quality of fields and the trips. (or both of course).