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Re: QUESTIONS & PAT DAY's (548 Views)
Posted by: Chuckles_the_Clown2 (IP Logged)
Date: November 03, 2004 04:47PM

classhandicapper wrote:

> >When you have that many loading, there is a good chance
> someone is going to go quick early. Not Saturday.<
>
> Agreed.
>
> But Saturday a lot of the speeds were suspect at the distance,
> were rateable, and pace issues were discussed publicly.
>
> I'm big on pace analysis after the fact as a method of
> interpretng results and measuring performance. I'm not so big
> on predicting pace related race developments because I'm wrong
> too often and the public usually overdoes it on the baord.

Pleasantly Perfect came down with a career ending injury sustained in the race. Its possible it impeded his ability to get closer. Its just as possible in the heat of the combat he never felt it.

I said it before and I'll reiterate. That track was QUICK and in the Classic they loafed early. Wide was NOT the path. I'm dying for the opportunity to line up again against the fastest horse to ever look through a bridle.

I almost fell out of the saddle when "The Blood Horse" stated: "but Frankel has never had any doubts about Ghostzapper's ability to stretch out to two turns":

http://bc.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=25182


Azeri broke half a step slow, but I'm stunned that Day and Lukas didn't take the game to them when she had the chance. She had one hope at the distance. She wasn't gonna outgame them late. More evidence that Lukas is a well placed amateur.

I'll admit to not spending enough time on the race and mis-analyzing the pace scenario. My bad, it won't happen with these horses again.

CtC



Post Edited (11-03-04 16:51)



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