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Re: Holy Bull (367 Views)
Posted by: (IP Logged)
Date: February 07, 2005 03:09PM

beyerguy,

Eventually we are going to generate more interest in pace as a handicappng factor. Maybe we should reconsider our willingness to promote this stuff. :-)

By the way, I thought of another circumstance where I think the actual figures might not be reflective of what happened in a race.

Here's 2 races.

23 - 46 - 110.4 - 137.2

23.4 - 46 - 110.4 - 137.2

Most pace figures only look at the 4f and 6f fractions. They would consider these 2 races similar. However, my experience tells me that that the 2nd quarter of the second race - which went in 22.1 - was probably super heated and took a bigger toll on the horses than the first race where they ran a more even 23 - 46.

I like to supplement the numerical figures with visual impressions. If the pace "looked" super contested for a period in the race, that can impact the outcome even if the 4F and 6F fractions aren't reflective.



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