CtC,

I have to disagree with you. War Emblem was questionable and so was Funny Cide. Our Emblem and Distorted Humor? I think that "after the fact", you can always go back and really research a pedigree and find some ties to stamina somewhere in the family tree and then call it a "sneaky" pedigree, but the reality is that the mainstream view on all those horses was that they were not "classic pedigrees".

As for Real Quiet, he absolutely did have a dosage of over 5.0, it was actually 5.30. I know because I made my biggest score in my life on him with a futures bet offshore at high odds. When I saw his Santa Anita derby where he was beat by about two lengths by a perfect trip Indian Charlie over a speed favoring track, I knew he could improve over a fair track at 1 1/4 in the Derby. I will never forget the huge smile on Desormeaux's face after the 2nd place finish at Santa Anita, as he knew his horse would improve. The exact quote was something like "I will be happy to take my chances in 4 weeks with an extra 1/8 of a mile at Churchill".

I remember being shocked to read before the Derby about his high dosage and it slightly discouraged me.

The punch line is that after the race, they recalculated the dosage of REal Quiet, because they made his sire a "chef de race" or something like that, which brought his new dosgae below 4.0.

That is the exact moment in time when I discounted dosage and I haven't looked hard at it since. Changing the rules after the race is over.........